Chanel Diver

mrs. boscoe has this watch. the movement has by audemars piguet. the more i see it, the more impressed i am. at first i dismissed it as a fashion watch. but the thing is very rugged. she uses it whenever she rides motorcycles. the thing gets vibrated and knocked around and looks great, runs perfectly. Pricey though - not sure I'd spring for it. These pics are from worldofwatches.com, which is asking $4300. Note some of the specs on the wow site are wrong. She paid $700 less, so if you are interested shop around or pm me for where she got it.





Chanel J12 Marine
Strap Width 21 mm
Case Sand-blasted black high-tech ceramic
Unidirectional ceramic bezel
Crystal Sapphire
Case Diameter 42 mm
Case Thickness 13 mm
Water Resistant 30 ATM/300 meters/ feet

There's some indication the movement might be ETA, though I've seen photos with an AP movement in this watch. Chanel is mum on this point, which makes me suspect it is an ETA movement.
That would make it a "fashion" diver IMHO - and way overpriced at that.
Will keep digging.
Help anyone?

I've been contemplating upgrading mrsneddles ceramic Android with a real deal Chanel J12. I haven't done any digging around on the movement origins for this line, but will certainly update with what I find.

On a different note, have you ever noticed how Chanel perfume reeks of old ladies. I'm overcome with the smell every time I've set foot in a Chanel boutique with my wife.

I have written to Chanel about the movement. We shall see if they respond.
Meanwhile, the smell of Chanel reminds me of one of my high school jobs as a shipping clerk at the company's Edison, N.J. facilities - not old ladies.
We used to clean up with Chanel soap at the end of the day. Great stuff! Takes off glue, magic marker, grease - you name it - without making your hands all crusty and hard.
I still use it after working in really crappy stuff.
My secret is out...but I recommend it. Works better than Lava.

Hate to say it, but that looks cheesy as shit compared to Mrs. Boscoe's Rollie collection.

She loves it, Noob. It's very well made and excellent finish. Looks better in person, I think.
But it's her purchase/pick. Not mine.

looks a little like the bremont supermarine, probably because of the dial.

I can see shades of Bremont with the dial for sure. I can also see shades of I-Force which is what turns me off to it. I guess we will give Mrs. Boscoe a pass on this as she is venturing into new territory so it will be good to hear her thoughts after wearing it for a while.

These guys say its has a 2894(chrono?)in it.
http://www.watchtime.net/eng/watches/index2.php?sid=pgu6usmnomgtgu9n5t16oij684&m1=tab3&start=0&search=100&brand=81&watch=21824&sort=0_ASC
But I see Lior says it has 2892 in it. It really irritates me when they make is so hard to find out what movement is in the watch. I ran into this with Gucci and Raymond Weil too. What is up with that?

Just not enough research perhaps?

A Comparison of ETA Movements
Some Other Differences




Forum: TimeZone - Advanced Forum
Re: Compare/contrast ETA 2824 and 2892-A2 movement (James Donabed)
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 07:46:19 GMT
From: Walt Odets

In addition to SJX's comment on the thickness differences, other differences include the 2892 with 21 jewels, 42 hour power reserve, enlarged ball bearing rotor mount, Glucydur balance; the 2824 with 25 jewels, 38 hour PR, often used with a less expensive balance.

Beyond this, the 2824 is very similar in construction to most of the other ETA's, including the 2688, 2671, 2688, 2685, etc., all of which are basically ETA ("in house") developments beginning in 1949. The 2892 is the most recent ETA (basic automatic) caliber and, unlike most of the other ETA's currently in production, the 2892 was derived from an outside design, the Eterna-matic 3000, Cal. 1466-U, first released in 1963 (by Eterna). When finally made available as an ETA movement in 1976, it was very flat for an automatic with center sweep and date, had a distinct developmental history outside ETA and had accumulated a very good record of reliability in the Eterna watches. It is quite different in construction from the other ETA's and appears much more robust to the eye than most of the "in house" ETA movements.

An historical note: ETA was the movement manufacturing division of Eterna until 1932 when it split off and joined Ebauches S.A. (which included other big manufacturers like A. Schild). Eterna continued independent development of movements (which is how it came up with the 1466U/2892), although Eterna and ETA also worked jointly on some designs. Almost all (all?) ETA and Eterna automatics share the Eterna-designed automatic winding system: a ball bearing mounted rotor winding in two directions via springless twin click wheels and two reduction wheels on the locking wheel

A side note on the 2824: Introduced by ETA in 1972, the 2824 was used in a 36,000 beat chronometer form by Ulysse Nardin (though it was available as a 28,800). UN has apparently reintroduced this movement in some of the San Marcos "fast beat" chronometers.

A final word on the 2892: If you see an automatic advertised with 21 jewels it is almost surely this movement.

http://www.timezone.com/library/archives/archives631704838628270188


http://www.ofrei.com/page_183.html

Still waiting for Chanel to get back to me. They sent me a standard email saying they'd respond to my question within 48 hours.
Tick, tick, tick....

The J12 ....is a line of watches by Chanel ,movements diferers within that line..
e.g. ...the AP/Chanel J12 caliber 3125, is considered an in-house movement , there is also a J12 GMT with what appears to be a 2893-2 mod movement, a J 12 Diamonds etc.
Could be that Ms Boscoe sample is an ETA 2892 based on price but who knows....

Lior is running a "sale" on these now at $3850 (1 left at 11:25 am Eastern). Mrs. B. must be an extremely savvy shopper, a well respected customer or both!