Orient VS Swiss Comparison

Interesting but incomplete.
The ending words "so there you are" don't tell you anything about the Orient vs. ETA differences other than the number of parts involved.
I'd like to see more about how the "magic lever" system actually differs from the ETA system other than the difference in the number of parts.

So there you are.

close as I can find

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He only states that there is less to deal with in the service teardown.

The whole Swiss vs. Orient is OWUSA rhetoric.

OWUSA is responsible for saying it is better when the instructor only says there are more parts.

Listen to both talking during the teardowns.

I do know that Orient winding is very efficient by ownership of a Power reserve. It allows you to witness it personally.

All you have to do is set the watch from dead. The watches second hand starts moving put the watch on forget about it.

IMHO Orient and Seiko non hand winding, non hacking watches are more robust due to less working parts. To me that is just common sense.

What makes a movement great is what the collector wants.

I own no ETA Autos yet so I will not say Orient is better, nor will I automatically assume ETA is better just because it is SWISS.

I really can't wait to own a good Eta Auto because I will assess that within reason then.

Orient autos really impress me as long as you are wearing the watch power reserve does not fall from normal body movement at all and accuracy of both my watches have stayed within COSC specs.

With the Seiko 7s26/36 movements and the Orient movements ,which are the same thing ,it is more than "give it shake to get it going and forget it"


Just giving the movement enough action to get the seconds hand to move will effect tha accuracy and PR depending on your level of activity.
I recall when Invicta was selling the Feiko movement watches many were led to believe that all you needed to do was pick up the watch and once the seconds hand was in motion you were "good to go"

Not so.
I have owned many of these movements over the years and experience dictates that optimum performance comes when they are brought to a full wind (100 or so "shakes") before wearing.

JMHO

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I always set the watch at full wind for accuracy check, I know. No it's not the same, your right, I always start up my watches by shaking them and full winding them. The laymen who does not have to be there by the second. It works fine set it for get it.

As far as The laughing Nazi and the reference that I am hitting the KoolAide. Well I will always look for the best for less. I do appreciate fine SWISS watchmaking it is truly beautiful. I also admire good quality offered up with good CS It means a hell of alot to me




I owned SWATCH in 1984 and I mean A Swatch Watch. One of those lets get the Swiss watch industry going again Plastic wonders with a neon green rubberband going down the Middle.




I was Freebasing the KoolAide then Please Forgive Me!

So please forgive my ignorance...

I thought Orient had in-house movements, but Foggy's post seems to infer that they are using seiko 7s26 and 7s36?

Please explain.
Thanks!

There is not much differences in the "magiclever" systems of both companies.

A good mech. drawing would be a thing to compare the two. Maybe Koi can find us somthing , I will look too.

Orient is in house and there are differences in their movements to Seiko. When your dealing with three hand day date watches you can only do so much.

Swatch Goup ETA is the same way, basic platform using subtle changes in models as different complications deem necessary. The watch co. using then may alter and change their grade level propotionate to the watch it is in.

There will always be Bipartisan Views,What you like is what you like.

I appreciate the open mindedness Big Cheese. You own Omega, Breitling and Rolex right.

If I owned them and no Orients at all I certainly would surf the Swiss area.

I do want a good Swiss Brand one day that's for sure..

I just really get a kick outta when companies offer up good quality and you can see it and the price point is a nice one.

Look into some Japanese dealers who sale Royal Orient and Orient Star I think you will be impressed.
I'm sorry they make a nice timepiece very accurate and well made period.

I'm not saying a "mako" is a Seamaster I never was
that is laughable.

The whole Orient Watch USA Ploy to compare the two is B.S. that is Koolaide. When watching the video listen really close to the Watchmaker and the camera guy talk. The School of Horology guy is being direct and the OWUSA guy is banging the drum for Orient. I know what they are doing but the guy with the screwdriver I will hold his opinion to some degree.

It seems to me that Orient is great, for the money especially.

If you research the differences between the 2824 and others in that series ( 2836 for example) and compare it to the 2892 series, you'll actually see quite a few differences.

So that said, it appears that while Orient may have "borrowed" some design from Seiko, the don't buy ebauches or parts from them?

Do they make their own springs, too?

Virtually ALL Swiss an German brands buy springs from SWATCH Group.

I don't know, I doubt they get a Swiss anything. I do know that their hair springs are inferior to Eta in their low level mid range movements. I still say Oh!Yea! like the KoolAide dude does when a watch I just bought keeps COSC time has the fit and finish of Tissot and I paid less than 200 bucks.

I'm a happy camper.