An apology to the WatchGeeks membership by WG leadership but never one to me.
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An apology to the WatchGeeks membership by WG leadership but never one to me.
04-02-2009, 12:11 AM
meijin
WatchGeeks Owner
True WatchGeek Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 11,985
Real Name: Michael
An apology to the WatchGeeks membership
________________________________________
The Owners of Watchgeeks.net have become aware of a very serious breach of the confidential areas of our Forum. This is a critical issue and we feel our entire forum must be made aware of the situation.
Briefly, during the transition to the new software, all the threads and posts in our Moderator’s AND Owner’s areas were inadvertently left accessible to anyone, including guests, that logged on. The “door” was opened for approximately 5 hours. The good news is that Personal Messages of members were NOT accessed during the breach.
What is the “Moderator’s Lounge” and “Owner’s Lounge”? Simply put, this is much like the teachers lounge of any school. A place where we as the Admin and Mod team can discuss current events, topics, issues and whatnot. Not only is it a place that we can privately strategize on how to run the forum, but it is also a place for our team to “blow off steam” when topics, or members get to be “too hot to handle”. Instead of a team member reacting publicly to a situation, they can vent to the team, and then regroup and deal with the situation, or person, in a more calm and reasonable manner. The Moderator’s lounge is a safe place to “count to ten” before re-entering the main public forums. In the course of these conversations comments can be made that, when taken literally, can absolutely be read as crude and derogatory in nature against one or more individuals who populate our forum.
"Mod forums" and "Admin forums" are a part of most every forum on the internet, regardless of the forum's subject matter. As some of our current members here have been mods elsewhere, they can also attest to this. The unfortunate result is now obvious. Screen captures of specific posts and threads, as well as our secure and private contact information, are now in the hands of many people that would like to use this private info against the ownership and administrative team and this information is already on the way to the infinite reaches of the internet. Several members of the administrative team have already received threatening emails to the personal addresses that were gathered during the intrusion. One such threat was to send out our team’s personal home addresses and phone numbers to anyone they choose to.
The Moderator’s Lounge has always been the place where our Team could blow off steam, make private commentary amongst ourselves and be secure in the knowledge that what was said would NEVER go outside of the Management “family”, sadly this internal commentary is destined to be made public.
Many members here can and probably will find some of these comments to be sarcastic, crude, cold in nature, and at some times unsettling. For that, we apologize.
It is unfortunate that the full context is not always provided and due to manipulation of the information, the entire story is not readily apparent. However, what was said was said and was done so in the context of private discussion. We would only ask everyone to ask yourself who has never said anything in confidence or in privacy that they would not be thrilled about it seeing the light of day? That is the case here. The first impression of the information is damning and for that we take full responsibility.
We do not underestimate the potential damage this event can cause our community. We cannot ignore the reactions and will deal with them as they come up. We, as owners, respectfully request that no one responds to the inevitable “fires” that will be erupting other than Jim, Bruce and I. As is the case with private messages of others, we will not be trotting out our laundry for others to see and we will not allow others to do so here either. If you receive something that you find to be upsetting or questionable, I ask that you contact us directly.
Our entire Admin and Moderator staff deeply apologize for any embarrassment or discomfort this situation may cause our Members.
For the sake of centralizing the information, we ask that you please place any and all questions and comments in this thread so that we can easily and quickly respond to them as necessary. Other threads will be locked with a note pointing everyone to this thread.
The Ownership Team (Michael, Jim and Bruce)
The Administrative and Moderator Team
__________________
Michael
Argument is meant to reveal the truth, not to create it. ~ Edward de Bono
Invicta...in hoc nomen vinces!
I never received an apology from the white trash that ran WG and was responsible for sending out personal information out to over 7000 people. I have recently found out that Michael Davis was telling people I allegedly paid someone to trash his car in Atlanta Georgia for comments made about my late wife. Jim Skelton just the other day stated on facebook that I blackmailed him to allow Darth Neo back into WG after he had been banned.
First off Jimblo, Darth aka Z-Freak, according to MD was not banned but there was an "issue" with an IP block affect many people. Yes I do have that email and yours too. So that is lie number one. Trashing a car is ludicrous, paying for it would have been less than satisfying if I felt that strongly about white trash making rude, crude and worthless comments about my wife. If your white trash comments had made me that pissed off I would have just taken care of it personally.
That is lie # 2.
No one ever threatened the members of WG with disclosing addresses.
That was lie #3.
There was never a manipulation of the threads posted in those forums, I posted them after your threats to me here, Comments about Big Joe http://watchedgeeks.forumotion.net/t2-cool-kids-talk-about-big-joe and many more here http://watchedgeeks.forumotion.net/f1-fuzzy-wabbits
That was lie #4.
Your recent bullshit post skelton at facebook claims you were "blackmailed" by me for exposing you as Corona Gorda...... The first corona gorda post ever made by me was AFTER GTWG sent out the email, which was set up by you, he and Michael Davis stalking me on the net and yes Skelton I can prove it. I can prove the day my information was accessed, the day davis wrote to DOJ, the dates of your email threats to me from your home computer and hushmail accounts, the PM and emails from GTWG who's real name and history I have still not released.
http://watchedgeeks.forumotion.net/f4-corona-gorda-aka-jim-skelton
So that was lie #5.
Would you like me to keep counting and exposing all of your lies MD, JS and others. I have them all.
Rather than apologize to me like real men and women do, you past leaders of the sales forum called watchgeeks threatened me, endangered my family, posted death treat websites and invaded my privacy. It has been a pleasure exposing you skelton and as an added bonus you got fired. As far as davis and the rest, I am still standing with the help of family and with the members of this forum. You have justified your actions against not only me but members of this forum by using the tag "hater". We don't ban people here for belonging to watchgeeks. We do advise them to use an alternative ID to protect themselves from WG spies intent on banning anyone who joins here or learns here.
WG did the same with the members of BDWF when WG started. And Michael Davis, the sanctamonious one, threatened via an email, the owners of BDWF. He claimed to have taped a conference call
You never cease to amaze me....in case of an issue like this coming up, I called you through my conference bridge which has the ability to record calls...I have a complete recording of the call you and I had. I am more than happy to provide that email to any and all individuals that would be interested in hearing it so that they can see that there are absolutely zero threats made to you in any way, shape or form. If you are going to tell lies about the conversation, then please be prepared for me to post the conversation on line and then point everyone I know to it so they can hear it for themselves. We will let the folks figure out if the comments about "Granddad" and your reaction to them mean anything or not.
I did not call you to start a war...do not try to start one and tell a bunch of lies. All I wanted to know is why I was banned. That is it...if you want to make more out of this than that, it is all on you.
Live and let live...otherwise that recording as well as the ones I made of the two owners meeting you guys used my bridge for will go up for anyone that wants to listen to them...and they can then compare what was said there to what has been said on the forum.
The email sent is below.
http://watchedgeeks.forumotion.net/t7-meijin-claims-to-have-illegally-recorded-bdwf-call
Stay out of my sight skelton and I will consider you just discarded trash. Stay on my radar and I promise you every employer will know about your lies, threats and other bullshit. You should know by now I am not bluffing. Oh, by the way, your facebook post was sent not only to Shop ( just in case you may severence pay if you are a good little boy) but also to the Detective here in town handling the ID theft case and the cause of it. You can read that as stalking me anon.
As to Davis and buddies, this place is where we will continue to expose lies by Invicta AND any company out there which wishes to lie to those in the watch world. And we will also continue to discuss all watches and watch companies in an honest fashion. Watchlords will never apologize for that.
meijin
WatchGeeks Owner
True WatchGeek Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 11,985
Real Name: Michael
An apology to the WatchGeeks membership
________________________________________
The Owners of Watchgeeks.net have become aware of a very serious breach of the confidential areas of our Forum. This is a critical issue and we feel our entire forum must be made aware of the situation.
Briefly, during the transition to the new software, all the threads and posts in our Moderator’s AND Owner’s areas were inadvertently left accessible to anyone, including guests, that logged on. The “door” was opened for approximately 5 hours. The good news is that Personal Messages of members were NOT accessed during the breach.
What is the “Moderator’s Lounge” and “Owner’s Lounge”? Simply put, this is much like the teachers lounge of any school. A place where we as the Admin and Mod team can discuss current events, topics, issues and whatnot. Not only is it a place that we can privately strategize on how to run the forum, but it is also a place for our team to “blow off steam” when topics, or members get to be “too hot to handle”. Instead of a team member reacting publicly to a situation, they can vent to the team, and then regroup and deal with the situation, or person, in a more calm and reasonable manner. The Moderator’s lounge is a safe place to “count to ten” before re-entering the main public forums. In the course of these conversations comments can be made that, when taken literally, can absolutely be read as crude and derogatory in nature against one or more individuals who populate our forum.
"Mod forums" and "Admin forums" are a part of most every forum on the internet, regardless of the forum's subject matter. As some of our current members here have been mods elsewhere, they can also attest to this. The unfortunate result is now obvious. Screen captures of specific posts and threads, as well as our secure and private contact information, are now in the hands of many people that would like to use this private info against the ownership and administrative team and this information is already on the way to the infinite reaches of the internet. Several members of the administrative team have already received threatening emails to the personal addresses that were gathered during the intrusion. One such threat was to send out our team’s personal home addresses and phone numbers to anyone they choose to.
The Moderator’s Lounge has always been the place where our Team could blow off steam, make private commentary amongst ourselves and be secure in the knowledge that what was said would NEVER go outside of the Management “family”, sadly this internal commentary is destined to be made public.
Many members here can and probably will find some of these comments to be sarcastic, crude, cold in nature, and at some times unsettling. For that, we apologize.
It is unfortunate that the full context is not always provided and due to manipulation of the information, the entire story is not readily apparent. However, what was said was said and was done so in the context of private discussion. We would only ask everyone to ask yourself who has never said anything in confidence or in privacy that they would not be thrilled about it seeing the light of day? That is the case here. The first impression of the information is damning and for that we take full responsibility.
We do not underestimate the potential damage this event can cause our community. We cannot ignore the reactions and will deal with them as they come up. We, as owners, respectfully request that no one responds to the inevitable “fires” that will be erupting other than Jim, Bruce and I. As is the case with private messages of others, we will not be trotting out our laundry for others to see and we will not allow others to do so here either. If you receive something that you find to be upsetting or questionable, I ask that you contact us directly.
Our entire Admin and Moderator staff deeply apologize for any embarrassment or discomfort this situation may cause our Members.
For the sake of centralizing the information, we ask that you please place any and all questions and comments in this thread so that we can easily and quickly respond to them as necessary. Other threads will be locked with a note pointing everyone to this thread.
The Ownership Team (Michael, Jim and Bruce)
The Administrative and Moderator Team
__________________
Michael
Argument is meant to reveal the truth, not to create it. ~ Edward de Bono
Invicta...in hoc nomen vinces!
I never received an apology from the white trash that ran WG and was responsible for sending out personal information out to over 7000 people. I have recently found out that Michael Davis was telling people I allegedly paid someone to trash his car in Atlanta Georgia for comments made about my late wife. Jim Skelton just the other day stated on facebook that I blackmailed him to allow Darth Neo back into WG after he had been banned.
First off Jimblo, Darth aka Z-Freak, according to MD was not banned but there was an "issue" with an IP block affect many people. Yes I do have that email and yours too. So that is lie number one. Trashing a car is ludicrous, paying for it would have been less than satisfying if I felt that strongly about white trash making rude, crude and worthless comments about my wife. If your white trash comments had made me that pissed off I would have just taken care of it personally.
That is lie # 2.
No one ever threatened the members of WG with disclosing addresses.
That was lie #3.
There was never a manipulation of the threads posted in those forums, I posted them after your threats to me here, Comments about Big Joe http://watchedgeeks.forumotion.net/t2-cool-kids-talk-about-big-joe and many more here http://watchedgeeks.forumotion.net/f1-fuzzy-wabbits
That was lie #4.
Your recent bullshit post skelton at facebook claims you were "blackmailed" by me for exposing you as Corona Gorda...... The first corona gorda post ever made by me was AFTER GTWG sent out the email, which was set up by you, he and Michael Davis stalking me on the net and yes Skelton I can prove it. I can prove the day my information was accessed, the day davis wrote to DOJ, the dates of your email threats to me from your home computer and hushmail accounts, the PM and emails from GTWG who's real name and history I have still not released.
http://watchedgeeks.forumotion.net/f4-corona-gorda-aka-jim-skelton
So that was lie #5.
Would you like me to keep counting and exposing all of your lies MD, JS and others. I have them all.
Rather than apologize to me like real men and women do, you past leaders of the sales forum called watchgeeks threatened me, endangered my family, posted death treat websites and invaded my privacy. It has been a pleasure exposing you skelton and as an added bonus you got fired. As far as davis and the rest, I am still standing with the help of family and with the members of this forum. You have justified your actions against not only me but members of this forum by using the tag "hater". We don't ban people here for belonging to watchgeeks. We do advise them to use an alternative ID to protect themselves from WG spies intent on banning anyone who joins here or learns here.
WG did the same with the members of BDWF when WG started. And Michael Davis, the sanctamonious one, threatened via an email, the owners of BDWF. He claimed to have taped a conference call
You never cease to amaze me....in case of an issue like this coming up, I called you through my conference bridge which has the ability to record calls...I have a complete recording of the call you and I had. I am more than happy to provide that email to any and all individuals that would be interested in hearing it so that they can see that there are absolutely zero threats made to you in any way, shape or form. If you are going to tell lies about the conversation, then please be prepared for me to post the conversation on line and then point everyone I know to it so they can hear it for themselves. We will let the folks figure out if the comments about "Granddad" and your reaction to them mean anything or not.
I did not call you to start a war...do not try to start one and tell a bunch of lies. All I wanted to know is why I was banned. That is it...if you want to make more out of this than that, it is all on you.
Live and let live...otherwise that recording as well as the ones I made of the two owners meeting you guys used my bridge for will go up for anyone that wants to listen to them...and they can then compare what was said there to what has been said on the forum.
The email sent is below.
http://watchedgeeks.forumotion.net/t7-meijin-claims-to-have-illegally-recorded-bdwf-call
Stay out of my sight skelton and I will consider you just discarded trash. Stay on my radar and I promise you every employer will know about your lies, threats and other bullshit. You should know by now I am not bluffing. Oh, by the way, your facebook post was sent not only to Shop ( just in case you may severence pay if you are a good little boy) but also to the Detective here in town handling the ID theft case and the cause of it. You can read that as stalking me anon.
As to Davis and buddies, this place is where we will continue to expose lies by Invicta AND any company out there which wishes to lie to those in the watch world. And we will also continue to discuss all watches and watch companies in an honest fashion. Watchlords will never apologize for that.
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